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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 25, 2011 10:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

This is indeed a spirited performance for a '94 show, but it's far from "must hear" material in my book. I doubt it's even top ten for the time span that you specified.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 25, 2011 10:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

You'll never get consensus on a "best", but I've yet to have anyone convince me there's a better DEW from that time period outline than this one:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd84-10-12.nak-rice.clugston.356.sbeok.shnf

The '87 MSG show is very good, but I still say Augusta rules this particular roost.

Overall? Well, you might as well go w/Cornell '77.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Oct 25, 2011 11:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

You know me, I'll always back this one up as my personal fave. Sure, it's short and maybe not as technically proficient as others, but the emotion jerry brings sends chills up my spine no matter how many times I listen to it.

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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Oct 25, 2011 2:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995... - Why all East Coast????

Having been lucky enought to been at the 83 Saratoga, 84 Augusta, 87 Garden shows and witnessed all these great Dews - I have to say 84 Augusta and 83 Saratoga go Neck and Neck - from a witnessing and playback perspective - people were just as blown away on the day as they were later listening to them

I also saw the 85 Richmond and Hershey Dews which people talk about - I dont consider them in this league

A more interesting Question : Why are all the Great Dews on the EAST coast?

Consider also the 77 Barton, 78 Passaic and 80 Rochester, 80 Portland, 82 Spectrum - which people regularly mention - all East Coast as well

Maybe Jerry gets apocolipic thoughts while out East?

This post was modified by Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer on 2011-10-25 21:54:47

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Oct 25, 2011 5:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995... - Why all East Coast????

I've always liked the 4/1/84 Dew from Marin County:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1984-04-01.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.32535.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 25, 2011 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995... - Why all East Coast????

They frequently played their best on the East coast. Not just dews. One could easily argue they played their very best in NYC overall.

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Poster: dirtybuck Date: Oct 25, 2011 5:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995... - Why all East Coast????

I put Hampton 84' in there with Augusta 84' and Saratoga 83', Don't know why it's not mentioned more. Seems obvious.

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Poster: naturalfractal Date: Oct 27, 2011 5:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

i found a partial video of the 10/12/84 dew - if anyone is interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZg8dQBMa8&;feature=related


my person favorite is def this one, great venue, great year, first show of the summer tour - i wish i could say i was there like some of you!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1983-06-18.set2.senn441.silberman.miller.103293.flac16

This post was modified by naturalfractal on 2011-10-28 00:03:00

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 25, 2011 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

1984-10-12 is pretty good, maybe best of the year, I have yet to really decide which I think is best for that year. However, I think its easily trumped by the 85, 86 and 87 dates I posted.

I think 5/22 is just a pinch better than 5/8. But both are ridiculously good.


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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Oct 25, 2011 11:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

"I think 5/22 is just a pinch better than 5/8. But both are ridiculously good."

Seconded. This may be blasphemy to admit, but I've always found the Cornell Dew a tad overrated (flame away!)

I don't have much of an opinion about '78-'95 Dews, although I do love 9/18/87. Someday I'll get around to listening to this '94 rec, I promise!

As far as the BEST Dew EVER, it has to be 6/18/74. No contest imho.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 26, 2011 5:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

I find it hard to overrate such a phenomenal dew. Rden makes some good points but part of what makes this dew so great is the unified playing that is happening. It carries much energy and the drumming is also pretty fucking awesome. Not to mention keith's keys sound so great on both 5/22 and 5/8. 5/22 is just more soft and heartfelt while still incredibly climactic that I feel it is a more textbook and well played dew.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 26, 2011 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

"Seconded. This may be blasphemy to admit, but I've always found the Cornell Dew a tad overrated (flame away!)"

The Cornell dew is HUGELY overrated imo. when i jam along to dew on my strat, i usually pick this version to jam to for a few reasons.
1. the excellent sound quality and instrument separation allows me to hear the other musicians very well when i'm playing along.
2. lots of space for long guitar solos. i've played along with this version many times, and have noticed how structurally simple jerry's extended solo is in this version compared to many others. i am almost able to fully replicate jerry's solo. that's not my goal, as i usually try to come up with new licks in my solos. but in playing this version numerous times, i noticed how simple it really is compared to many others which i why i attempted to duplicate the solo, and found it fairly simple. i know this is not the case with other versions. i also know i don't judge music based on how technically difficult it is to play, but jerry really didn't do anything too special in the cornell version. just my opinion.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Oct 26, 2011 12:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

I will not flame - I find Cornell too, I don't know, perfect and... dare I say, controlled? It doesn't strike that raw, primal emotion in me that the '87 MSG did - perhaps because I was in the Garden that night? I don't know.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 26, 2011 10:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

Agreed. The Cornell show is not overrated, but the Dew is. It's way up there as far as post-hiatus Dews go, but to label it the best of all time is just crazy talk.

This post was modified by snow_and_rain on 2011-10-26 17:04:17

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 26, 2011 5:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

"The Cornell show is not overrated, but the Dew is."

funny you say that. I said the exact opposite to clementine last time I saw him. I think the dew is the best part of that show. But im a dew nut so im bias.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 26, 2011 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

do you and clementine go to college together?

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 26, 2011 5:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

yea, we're in different departments but same school.

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Oct 26, 2011 12:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Dew of 1978-1995...

glad to know i'm not the only one... I mean, don't get me wrong, its great, but whenever i listen to it i get the feeling like i'm missing something with all the 'greatest ever' talk surrounding it. i just think there are way better Dews out there. just goes to show the subjectivity of all this!

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